Was Reito Minagi being Reito Minangi throughout Mai-HiME?

Luu Sky Sapphire wrote:I always took that "Are you really the Obsidian Lord or Reito" quote from Nagi as a response to his feelings towards Mai. Nagi probably thinks that Reito's feelings cloud the mind of the Obsidian Lord; when in actuality, it's actually both syncing as one. Reito had strong feelings for Mai the person and the Obsidian Lord has strong feelings for Kagutsuchi summoners. After Mashiro became the Crystal Princess, Mai became the Obsidian Lord's new object of affection.

Highman wrote:To me from Blu-ray special seems that Reito hasn't changed and before ObsidianLord overtook him. OL was frustrated/angry on why he kept chosen every emotional user who's with Kagutsuchi more likely there was any users only Mai and Mashiro.

Reito character shows itself slowly in the first series and were willingly to see more of the upcoming first series. He maybe the perfect fit relationship to Mai but sooner or later his nature could hurt anyone and to himself and I believe Obsidian Lord didn't come empty handed during the Festival

Luu Sky Sapphire wrote:

Highman wrote:To me from Blu-ray special seems that Reito hasn't changed and before ObsidianLord overtook him. OL was frustrated/angry on why he kept chosen every emotional user who's with Kagutsuchi more likely there was any users only Mai and Mashiro.

Reito character shows itself slowly in the first series and were willingly to see more of the upcoming first series. He maybe the perfect fit relationship to Mai but sooner or later his nature could hurt anyone and to himself and I believe Obsidian Lord didn't come empty handed during the Festival

Isn't that contradiction on the part of the Obsidian Lord? Reito naturally pined for Mai, what more did he want? It was a repeat of history in a sort of ironic twist.

Also, wasn't it the First District grannies who said in episode 17's opening scene; "Obsidian Lord shall awaken soon"? Implying that Reito wasn't the Obsidian Lord just yet. He was sealed inside his body, which makes sense as he didn't react to seeing the underground chasm with all the deactivated pillars.

Highman wrote:It's not ironic when an alien being have every Carnival end because Obsidian Lord was a sore loser to have these girls being conned because of mating purposes. Welp I'm sure OL can still be an wingman to find some other beta ala Ishigami(for example) to be his BFF, both can take over the world and mate forever.

I do believe Reito has suffered an dark past with Mikoto before OL had him as a mentor and a friend. He maybe free but to himself he isn't.

Highman wrote:It didn't take them a whole year since series ended when spring break started probably  that was best time to take down Reito. Since his facial expression from blu-ray were dead giveaway he was vicious sonuvabitch.

Thankfully now he's the main harem guy for the next Mai-franchise with malicious intent.

Luu Sky Sapphire wrote:

Highman wrote:It didn't take them a whole year since series ended when spring break started probably  that was best time to take down Reito. Since his facial expression from blu-ray were dead giveaway he was vicious sonuvabitch.

Thankfully now he's the main harem guy for the next Mai-franchise with malicious intent.

Wait, I thought the series ended when graduation time happened. Unless Japan's graduation time IS during the Springtime. And his facial expression from this specific scene...



...was just a "ha ha" moment by Sunrise Inc. The hopes of "is the Obsidian Lord back?!" are quickly crushed when you see Reito being punished by all the HiME in comedic ways. Otherwise, that sinister smile is out of character for him. Where was his scary face at the end of episode 26 or the director cut footage of him walking with Mikoto? Again, the smile thing was just a farce and nothing more. :)I'd prefer to not have Reito be the villain again in the next series. Evil Arika is the way to go.

Highman wrote:Reito will have huge pivotal role to the next series as the neutral vicious harem guy and it was more like a troll face from Sunrise on Reito trying to get revenge on the HiME's. I'm willing to see more of his out of character touch to really scare off his enemies and show what his true natures are.

I rather have an evil mother and daughter combo that would make everyone piss in their boots.

Luu Sky Sapphire wrote:

Highman wrote:Reito will have huge pivotal role to the next series as the neutral vicious harem guy and it was more like a troll face from Sunrise on Reito trying to get revenge on the HiME's. I'm willing to see more of his out of character touch to really scare off his enemies and show what his true natures are.

I rather have an evil mother and daughter combo that would make everyone piss in their boots.

You mean the same kind of troll face they did with the movie trailer?  

If there is any "true nature" for Reito, it most likely involves his bitterness towards the other girls. If his hatred should go towards anyone, it's Tate. He was the one who got in the way at the last second.

Mother and daughter combo? You mean an evil Lena Sayers tossed into the mix? That does sound like a good idea, but Sunrise would have to explain her (and Arika's) connection to their future reincarnations where they're good people.

Highman wrote:
Sunrise can troll anyone including but can Sunrise troll themselves, no animation company has NEVER and I mean NEVER trolled themselves out maybe GAINAX but who?

Luu Sky Sapphire wrote:

Highman wrote:
Sunrise can troll anyone including but can Sunrise troll themselves, no animation company has NEVER and I mean NEVER trolled themselves out maybe GAINAX but who?

I'm glad you brought up GAINAX. Too much trolling hurt them in the past (Neon Genesis Evangelion's original anime ending and End of Evangelion anyone?) Sunrise should learn from that mistake by now. Sometimes we want to have existing storylines expanded/explained. And sometimes we WANT a proper ending for a series, something Evangelion and Madoka do not have so far. Giving us a THE END.....QUESTION MARK!? ending after all that angst and deep philosophical dialogue is a stab wound in the pee pee. Makes me feel relief knowing that Mai-HiME and Mai-Otome both have happy endings.

Luu Sky Sapphire wrote:Both of you have very convincing arguments. Evangelion's original endings were just nonsensical and awful. I'm hoping the final entry in their reboot series of films has a proper closure to everything. Again, at least Mai-HiME/Otome ended on high notes, with only post-HiME activity and if Ribbon-chan will become an Otome as sequel hooks.

Highman wrote:I would prefer post-HiME activity, new villain, dangerous rivals,lack of story and more fanservice including Reito-kun doing crazy things to Mai on weekly nights with them together.

Reito disciplines Mai for being a failure and gets punished in the vicious kind of way. Even Obsidian Lord would be impressed.

Luu Sky Sapphire wrote:

Highman wrote:I would prefer post-HiME activity, new villain, dangerous rivals,lack of story and more fanservice including Reito-kun doing crazy things to Mai on weekly nights with them together.

Reito disciplines Mai for being a failure and gets punished in the vicious kind of way. Even Obsidian Lord would be impressed.

You want lack of story? That's a first in recorded history.  

A "snuff" series focusing on Mai Tokiha punishment sounds arousing, but beneath even Sunrise Inc.'s standards. They can do better than that.