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Post by SXD on Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:28 am

I just finished watching through Series 1, 2 as well as Akito the Exiled.

I don't see any other CG threads, but I cannot be the only person here that loves this series.

My watch order:
I'm a stickler for chronology. Contrary to what is normally suggested, I always watch in chronological order instead of order of release. I've never regretted doing so.
Code Geass: LotR (Lelouch of the Rebellion, not lord of the rings)
Code Geass: Akito the Exiled
Code Geass: LotR R2

It is not really necessary to watch Akito, however the main character and another from LotR DO have a few scenes that set a tone and gives hints which make the transition to R2 a LOT less abrupt (or as I call it S2E1WTFisgoingon?). Akito is also a very good story in it's own right IMO.

That aside I am completely astounded by how good this series is. I ran out of flashy promo anime to watch so thought I'd give this a try. I had seen a lot of positive comments on it,... and now I know why.

Long Short:
Modern day
Wars for territory, revenge, the crown etc
Random but not so random guy gets a power
Other people also have powers
Shifting alliances with family and friends
People actually die
No one is perfect... ESPECIALLY the main character
Tragedy, oh the tragedy, yet there are bits of comedy, just enough to keep it entertaining without turning it into a kids show (which it is definitely not at all).

The second I realized the main character was flawed, beyond what I'm normally used to, I was hooked. And to be honest. I did not and still do not like him,... at all. But the story captivated me nonetheless.

IS ANYONE ELSE HERE A FAN?

I do however have some issues with the summary ova's and the resulting alternate continuation.

SPOILERS HERE ON OUT REGARDING THE ENDING:

Spoiler:
I noticed a lot of people arguing whether or not LeLouche is dead. There's so many theories, yet no cut and dry evidence in the conflicting cuts of the ending. Not to mention, the writers already admitted he actually died, and the new series will be based on an alternate ending from the last three summary "ova's"....

Spoiler:
So this is my only real problem here. The literal best ending to the series is that he died. The End. That is the only way to properly end the series. And I really hope that was the intent. BUT is an alternate ending even necessary?

Spoiler:
The way R2 ends, you can just read it as, he was stabbed, he clearly died in Nunnally's arms. You could ALSO however, add all the weird things they put into the show and the ending that kinda could form a reason for him coming back.

Spoiler:
The popular theory is completely plausible
-father becomes code bearer
-kills father so now has code
-still has geass because he got it from someone else
-code activates when he is killed at the end
-he is now immortal
THEN this would explain why Nunnally had flashbacks when she touched him at the end....
no need to re-write anything, just have him explain that all in the next series.
I don't know what happens in the 3rd summary ova cause it isn't online yet, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see what they do with the continuation to see if this was all even necessary.

Thoughts?

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Re: Code Geass

Post by Lerena on Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:17 pm

I love this series. My opinion of the main character is different, but I'll admit that I wouldn't be surprised if most people hate his guts. He has done some awful shit. In my case, however, fiction is best written to accomplish things that would never work in real life. The main character doesn't have to be a super moral, stereotypical good person to be well written and engage the audience in a captivating story. In fact, I think I like him, because he's morally questionable and I tend to lean toward having more favorite characters that are at least slightly antagonistic to begin with if not downright assholes. I do have a variety of favorites though and Lelouch, to me at least, is written very well. He gets shit done. While he may not be likable from a realistic perspective, he's definitely part of why I love Code Geass.

If I must be honest, as well, the appeal of this series for me is that the characters feel more human. No one is all good or all evil. They're all in-between and in varying shades of gray. For most of the characters, for example, they all have someone they care about no matter how they may seem at first glance.


Spoilers about the ending:
I would have preferred a legit 3rd season instead of an alternate ending. The content in the last spoiler tag basically sums up why. It's not like it would be that weird for him to still be alive after all that. The original series left a natural opening for bringing him back so what's the deal here?

Either way, for personal reasons that I'm hesitant about mentioning, I'm looking forward to the alternate ending. Let's hope it doesn't completely suck or this alternate ending might become the "ending that must not be named" and it will be forbidden to utter a single word about it in regards to Code Geass. I might like it regardless of the overall opinion everyone else has of it, but I'll be watching it. Carefully. It's not impossible for me to hate how something is written.
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Re: Code Geass

Post by SXD on Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:32 pm

Lerena wrote:While he may not be likable from a realistic perspective, he's definitely part of why I love Code Geass.

That's pretty much how I feel. As I mentioned, he was the reason I got hooked. And I vividly remember the specific moment:

Spoiler:
When he first get's his Geass and goes to Clovis... There wasn't a single second during that scene, where I thought he would actually kill him. Not with the way the interaction was and especially since it was clear Clovis told him everything he knew, which was basically nothing. So in my head I thought:

"no matter how mad he is about his mother being killed, he would still have some morals and some kind of scenario reasoning. Was everyone in on his mother being killed? What if it was only one person? What if it wasn't even someone in the family? And he has a huge family... what's he gonna do, kill ALL of them? Even the ones that are actually good people?"

... and that thought is hilarious now that I've watched through everything, BUT this was only the first episode and we hadn't learned enough about him to know it was even a possibility, so I just assumed standard hero behavior.... "bang".... ummmmm nope. LOL WTF?

So yes, I like, that I don't like him. I just say "flawed", which sounds generic, but I can't really say it any other way without spoiling anything. In fact, I agree, all of the characters were written very well. Maybe not all were given enough screen time, but I feel they were all done very well.

Lerena wrote:If I must be honest, as well, the appeal of this series for me is that the characters feel more human. No one is all good or all evil.

Agreed. While some of the characters are initially introduced as good or evil, in the end you find that there are reasons why they did what they did. And for the most part it is all understandable.

Spoiler:
... EXCEPT with Euphi IMO, LOL. It played into his character well, but his Geass does NOT make people superheroes, he really could've just restrained and kidnapped her, and figured out how to deal with the situation later. And for someone who can think ahead, I found it a little annoying that he did not once consider to take precautions against accidental Geassage lol. A BIG oops, and still a strong part of the story but I'm mostly mad at him (not the writers) for making that mistake. I liked Euphi with Suzaku.... but perhaps Euphi was just too nice for the world of Code Geass, so it must mean death... to be fair though, I appreciate that he cried when he gave the order to take her out.

And what's with all the outrage over the table? Of all the way more sick and twisted things that happen in the world of anime... people are going to complain about something this insignificant? I literally brushed this scene off like it was just someone sipping tea. I think people were reading WAY too much into the newspaper picture.

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